Comments on: Do Your Clients Have 2 out of These 3 Characteristics? https://daredreamer.com/do-your-clients-have-2-out-of-these-3-characteristics/ The Sites & Sounds of Creative Expression Thu, 13 Feb 2014 13:07:22 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.1 By: Vico Ughetto https://daredreamer.com/do-your-clients-have-2-out-of-these-3-characteristics/#comment-1160 Thu, 13 Feb 2014 13:07:22 +0000 http://daredreamermag.com/?p=18175#comment-1160 In reply to donsolare.

Dear Juan, I would like to congratulate you by your wisdom words. Most of the times comments aren’t so balanced and full with useful content. Nice man.

I full agree with your top idea to benchmark the hotel estimate (imitate maybe is to strong) and try to check why it was good (at least for that one).

And for the above 3 items you add, they are spot on. Specially the first. My worse fear to have a client with me is that they don’t know nothing about the technical side, so for them, sometimes, all things are easy and fast to achieve.

For example I kept hearing (luckily only in meetings) “I don’t have all things neat to shot but you can fix it in post, so I’m not worried…” Well I say also trying to be funny: Oh yeah! don’t worry, I will raise my bill 10x more because of the category special fx, just because someone didn’t spend 10$ in cleaning papers”.

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By: donsolare https://daredreamer.com/do-your-clients-have-2-out-of-these-3-characteristics/#comment-1159 Thu, 13 Feb 2014 07:00:00 +0000 http://daredreamermag.com/?p=18175#comment-1159 In reply to JDG.

JDG: sorry to listen this story. Only thing that I can suggest: find out why the hotel’s solution was “simpler” and try to imitate it in some next job.
Juan María (composer)

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By: donsolare https://daredreamer.com/do-your-clients-have-2-out-of-these-3-characteristics/#comment-1158 Thu, 13 Feb 2014 06:55:18 +0000 http://daredreamermag.com/?p=18175#comment-1158 Hi Ron, I can only agree. Also in my thing (music) you will find these 3 elements in different degrees.

One point, nevertheless: if clients want to get involved in the creative process (i.e. “control you”), this might be also a blessing, provided
– (a) they have a minimum of technical knowledge,
– (b) they really know what they want (not always the ase with hyper-control personalities)
– (c) they know where to stop (if they engaged you it is because they cannot do it themselves)

And it can be a blessing since sometimes constraints can be inspiration, by setting a clear frame to work in.
warm regards –
Juan María / pianist & composer

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By: JDG https://daredreamer.com/do-your-clients-have-2-out-of-these-3-characteristics/#comment-1157 Fri, 07 Feb 2014 15:34:06 +0000 http://daredreamermag.com/?p=18175#comment-1157 I think you can add another category of clients….Douchebags ones….
I just had the worse experience of my work, I have my own production company here in France, we’re making docs, short movies, web series, corporate work.
A few days ago, some clients came to us, they wanted to film a conference at a parisian hotel.
They needed a lot of gear, four cameras, a lot of sound equipment for the video and for the conference etc etc. So I’ve made them a quote, then they asked me for only one camera and just the audio for the camera, so I’ve made a second quote, then they asked me for one camera and all the audio gear, so I’ve made a third quote, I’ve spend days of work just to make quotes.

They told me that all the quotes I’ve send were cheaper than the others they receive and at the end ? They told me they’ve chosen the solution proposed by the hôtel were the conference will be, it was more expensive but more “simple” as they said…..

So yes, add the douchebag category,they’ve made me lose my time and the time of the different rental houses I work with, I’ve fight to get the best quality at the best price and they’ve chosen the hotel which in France does not have the right to employ video technician (in france only production companies can do that).

Anyway, i’m very sad today.

Cheers.

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By: Vico Ughetto https://daredreamer.com/do-your-clients-have-2-out-of-these-3-characteristics/#comment-1156 Fri, 07 Feb 2014 13:24:46 +0000 http://daredreamermag.com/?p=18175#comment-1156 Well I would add another point since I’m a proactive creative producer: Willing to develop with you a communication strategy that includes a regular video production (adapted to the company size and style, it could be twice a year or twice a month) and not call you the day before to work in an important event for the company that’s happening tomorrow.

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By: Ron Dawson https://daredreamer.com/do-your-clients-have-2-out-of-these-3-characteristics/#comment-1155 Wed, 05 Feb 2014 16:26:05 +0000 http://daredreamermag.com/?p=18175#comment-1155 In reply to Brian Russell.

You make a good point Brian. It may be worth adding a factor related to “actual” compatibility. Although, ideally you’d only take on a client you felt compatible with in terms of like-ability, values, etc. In any case, this definitely isn’t “science.” Ha. 🙂 Thanks for sharing.

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By: Brian Russell https://daredreamer.com/do-your-clients-have-2-out-of-these-3-characteristics/#comment-1154 Wed, 05 Feb 2014 14:50:18 +0000 http://daredreamermag.com/?p=18175#comment-1154 Great post Ron. Timing is amazing — I am literally struggling with this issue regarding a client right now. I might add to the list: Is easy and pleasant to work with. My client is way over deadline getting me assets, and they fight internally among themselves, making my job much more stressful. But on your index, they are willing to pay, and they do appreciate my work (when I am finally able to get it done!) But the pain of working with them is making me crazy already. Because they have majorly missed a deadline, I have an out. Just not sure if I should take it. In the end, this one is totally about the money.

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