Comments on: Apple Has You by the Cojones https://daredreamer.com/apple-has-you-by-the-cojones/ The Sites & Sounds of Creative Expression Wed, 29 Jun 2011 12:13:38 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.1 By: Who will sue Apple for Final Cut Pro X first? » cinema5D news https://daredreamer.com/apple-has-you-by-the-cojones/#comment-4753 Wed, 29 Jun 2011 12:13:38 +0000 http://bladeronner.com/?p=4260#comment-4753 […] bladeronner.com put it so nicely: “Apple Has You by the […]

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By: Michael Wright https://daredreamer.com/apple-has-you-by-the-cojones/#comment-4752 Tue, 28 Jun 2011 04:21:08 +0000 http://bladeronner.com/?p=4260#comment-4752 Let’s hope you are wrong with you iTunes scenario Ron. By my estimations, Apple needs now, more than ever, to move forward with any updates very carefully. Anything resembling the scenario you detail will certainly have angry mobs with pitchforks and baseball bats forming outside Apple headquarters in nothing flat!

I predict there’s going to be a similar uproar to the FCX disaster in the coming weeks when folks get their 1st opportunity to hit the ‘buy’ button in the App store and install Lion. All the specs and talk from developers clearly indicate more legacy support is going away in this latest OS release and if you don’t already have Snow Leopard installed, the only other way to get Lion is buy waiting for Apple to start shipping it on new hardware. Here again, Apple has in fact documented this is the case, but how many dyed-in-the-wool Apple geeks will heed this warning before they line up online at the app store and hit that ‘buy’ button? We’ll soon see I guess…

So what happens if your system crashes or you replace the hard drive on your Lion system?

Well, I hope you’ve got a backup of your system and a Snow Leopard install disk, because you will need them to get back online to the app store to get Lion. Yep, that’s right, you have to install two operating systems to restore your system. If you’ve purchased or installed apps that only support Lion, you’re really in a pickle. Apple’s walled- garden approach is soon to become a big deal.

Michael

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By: Ron Priest https://daredreamer.com/apple-has-you-by-the-cojones/#comment-4751 Sun, 26 Jun 2011 22:31:27 +0000 http://bladeronner.com/?p=4260#comment-4751 In reply to Ron Dawson.

Honestly, I don’t have a problem with “eventually” having to bite the FCPX bullet, but I don’t want to have to do it so I can upgrade to Lion next month. That would be devastating!

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By: sam https://daredreamer.com/apple-has-you-by-the-cojones/#comment-4750 Sat, 25 Jun 2011 04:31:17 +0000 http://bladeronner.com/?p=4260#comment-4750 I asked myself, what products will FCPX sell, to whom, for what reason. My answers: KIDS and imovie users. New editors who want to blend their cell phones, powershots, and rebels to wow their friends on youtube. Anyone who wants quality, traditional distribution, or theatrical projection will run for avid, premiere pro, or the bricks and mortar post houses with specialists. If I read read reviews correctly, audio is a great big hole. No dual monitor support. 5.1 surround sound default? No support for FCP7 projects? No multicam support? FCPX will make “everyone” a video editor. Just like digital made “everyone” a photographer. A world awash in crap images and clips.
This will be a high volume, low price seller to consumers and will drive hardware and equipment sales to the masses. “pro?” now everyone is a “pro” And no one will understand the difference. FCPX will be the great divider between high cost, high end, and a ubiquitous crowd of consumer level users eager to participate in social networking.
Bottom line: Apple sans Jobs. Sad really.

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By: Ron Dawson https://daredreamer.com/apple-has-you-by-the-cojones/#comment-4749 Fri, 24 Jun 2011 22:17:22 +0000 http://bladeronner.com/?p=4260#comment-4749 In reply to Darren LaMarr.

I think most of my readers fit into the small 1-2 man operations. My main point is that, there’s no way you can permanently stay on FCP 7 as some people are suggesting. Eventually you will need to bit the FCPX bullet, or jump ship to Avid or Premiere.

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By: Darren LaMarr https://daredreamer.com/apple-has-you-by-the-cojones/#comment-4748 Fri, 24 Jun 2011 04:00:52 +0000 http://bladeronner.com/?p=4260#comment-4748 My only comment is that if you’re watching your movies on the same computer you edit from then you’re a home use that will love FCPx anyway. Pro studios isolate their products so that the edit machine is only for editing. So while you are probably right at one level (apple will continue to be Big Brother and control everything) the pro folks won’t care. They’ve been waiting for this too long.

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By: Fat Elvis https://daredreamer.com/apple-has-you-by-the-cojones/#comment-4747 Fri, 24 Jun 2011 00:46:01 +0000 http://bladeronner.com/?p=4260#comment-4747 I have a couple of thoughts on your iTunes theory Ron. If you are thinking of a one man band, editing on their home computer or single workstation then you may be right, but if that’s the case then the majority of FCPX’s failings for professional users won’t apply to that person as they are mainly to do with transferring work between departments. FCPx should suit their needs just fine. A few issues may still arise but they are minor and if its a one person operation then they’ll be more than a little familiar with finding creative workarounds anyway. Such as tape ingest and output could just as easily be handled by another piece of software, then FCPx could access that media. It’s a workaround, so not ideal, but not a deal breaker.

On the other hand, if you are referring to post houses then the iTunes theory wouldn’t matter as if it is a professional outfit then their workstations will be used for work, an out of date iTunes won’t be a problem, and so neither would an older version of osx if it came to that.

I run CS5.5 and FCS3, don’t see why not as they are both very affordable. I work professionally in both. Over the last few months I drifted from FCS3 towards CS5 more often, the speed and the Dynamic link workflow was making FCS3 look like amateur hour. Since upgrading to CS5.5 I haven’t used FCS3 for a single project, professional or otherwise. CS5.5 for now is definitely the number 1 choice out there. As of yesterday, after discovering that FCPx (and I suppose therefore, Apple) no longer support FCS3, I deleted it from my system entirely, I was only really holding on to it to see what changes FCPx would bring anyway.

I can only see myself using FCPx in the future though, it gets so many things right straight of the starting line, it has problems of course but not exactly fatal flaws when you consider that Apple have said they are releasing updates and they will be doing so at an accelerated pace due to the app store roll out, I fail to see what people are worrying for, or are so angry about. Use the software you have now, download FCPx, it’s so frikin cheap it’s silly to not download it really, learn the new system on personal projects while your pro work is as catered for as it’s always been with either FCS3 or CS5.5 (I don’t like AVID but if you must then I suppose you could use it). Then when/if FCPx is ready to suit your needs then switch, but at least you’ll have got a head start on learning the new system by running it on your personal stuff.

Just as a side thought, I don’t like that it can’t import layered photoshop files, but I was wondering, can motion 5 do it? if so then problem solved, it would be good if someone could check that out and let us know.

Final point, the real trick is to not tie yourself to software. and even for large post houses, if your editors are worth their salt they’ll be able to edit in whatever NLE is set before them anyway. They are so similar it’s trivial to make the change, plus they all support pretty much all the same technologies so existing facilities won’t be to badly effected either. So if FCPx really does turn out to be unsuitable then why would you give a shit? Just use something else.

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By: Nic Justice https://daredreamer.com/apple-has-you-by-the-cojones/#comment-4746 Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:43:43 +0000 http://bladeronner.com/?p=4260#comment-4746 Apple does all kinds of thinks that dont make sense how about that macbook pro that has 1 firewire input?

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By: Ron Dawson https://daredreamer.com/apple-has-you-by-the-cojones/#comment-4745 Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:34:04 +0000 http://bladeronner.com/?p=4260#comment-4745 In reply to Carl Olson.

I’m going to start learning Premiere for sure.

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By: Ron Dawson https://daredreamer.com/apple-has-you-by-the-cojones/#comment-4744 Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:33:40 +0000 http://bladeronner.com/?p=4260#comment-4744 In reply to mariofeil.

You’re right. It’s a total pain to have to go in and re-program all those shortcuts. Then what if I edit on my laptop. Or on someone else’s computer. It’s just really bad all the way across. IMHO.

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